Season 3 Episode 5:
Rosemary with Felicia Cocotzin Ruiz


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Rosemary with Felicia Cocotzin Ruiz

Episode Summary

Rosemary (Salvia rosmarinus) has so many gifts… it’s rich in antioxidants, a delicious culinary herb, and celebrated for enhancing memory. Rosemary is also often underrated for its ability to get things moving and reduce pain in cold or sore muscles.

That’s why I’m so excited to bring you this conversation about rosemary with Felicia Cocotzin Ruiz. She’ll share the many ways she works with this wonderful herb, including her recipe for a rosemary tonic you can rub on to give some relief to sore joints or muscles when it’s cold outside.

Felicia is an author, indigenous foods activist, natural foods chef, and curandera (Mexican traditional healer) educating and supporting others in reclaiming the kitchen healer approach to health with Indigenous wisdom and whole food cooking. Her holistic wellness background spans over 25 years in which she has had the opportunity to work with grassroots activists, tribal leaders, top wellness resorts, and professional athletes–helping people (re)connect to their ancestral foods, earth medicines, and health practices.

Felicia’s work has been featured in Spirituality & Health, Food & Wine, Bon Appétit, and many other media platforms, including The Original Americans episode on Padma Lakshmi’s Taste The Nation (Hulu). Felicia presents frequently around the country on Native American healing practices, holistic wellness, and Native American food sustainability at community events, universities, and museums–including the Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian. 

Listen in for:

► How Felicia’s grandmother used herbs when she was a nurse in a tuberculosis ward

► Why you might want to bring herbs that your ancestors worked with into your day to day life

► The role of ritual and gratitude


It was a delight to spend time with Felicia and I’m very happy to share our conversation with you!



Most of the grandmothers that I learned from… a lot of them said the same thing. You should know five herbs very well and know how to use them in all different ways.








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What You'll Learn from This Episode

  • [01:08] Introduction to Felicia Cocotzin Ruiz
  • [02:42] The role of older women in introducing Felicia to working with plants for healing
  • [05:21] What is a curandera – and how does this differ from being an herbalist?
  • [07:03] Felicia’s path to becoming a curandera
  • [10:28] Why Felicia chose rosemary (Salvia rosmarinus) for this conversation
  • [14:04] Various ways Felicia likes to work with rosemary
  • [14:52] Felicia’s recipe for Rosemary Tonic for Cold Air
  • [20:45] Felicia’s book, Earth Medicines: Ancestral Wisdom, Healing Recipes, and Wellness Rituals from a Curandera
  • [28:45] Felicia shares her current projects
  • [31:19] What’s new for Felicia in working with herbs

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01:16 - Introduction to Felicia Cocotzin Ruiz

02:49 - The role of older women in introducing Felicia to working with plants for healing

05:41 - What is a curandera – and how does this differ from being an herbalist?

07:23 - Felicia’s path to becoming a curandera

10:54 - Why Felicia chose rosemary (Salvia rosmarinus) for this conversation

14:40 - Various ways Felicia likes to work with rosemary

15:33 - Felicia’s recipe for Rosemary Tonic for Cold Air

21:38 - Felicia’s book, Earth Medicines: Ancestral Wisdom, Healing Recipes, and Wellness Rituals from a Curandera

29:57 - Felicia shares her current projects

32:38 - What’s new for Felicia in working with herbs


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Rosalee is an herbalist and author of the bestselling book Alchemy of Herbs: Transform Everyday Ingredients Into Foods & Remedies That Heal and co-author of the bestselling book Wild Remedies: How to Forage Healing Foods and Craft Your Own Herbal Medicine. She's a registered herbalist with the American Herbalist Guild and has taught thousands of students through her online courses. Read about how Rosalee went from having a terminal illness to being a bestselling author in her full story here.  



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