We often grow in important ways because of mistakes. But while experience can be a powerful teacher, it can also be a painful one. The cool thing is that hearing other people’s mistakes can help our own growth and learning…minus the regrets.
With that in mind, a theme for Season 8 of the podcast is looking back at herbal mistakes, a bit like alerting other drivers to a hazard on the road ahead.
I’m getting the ball rolling by sharing my three most important mistakes with herbs. I’m also sharing tips and resources to help you avoid those same potholes.
After listening in, you’ll know:
► How to minimize waste in your home apothecary (and why that’s important)
► One big reason why herbs sometimes help and sometimes don’t…and a more nuanced approach to herbalism that’s far likelier to be successful
► How I learned that, at its heart, herbalism is about so much more than swapping out herbs for drugs
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Welcome to season 8 of the Herbs with Rosalee podcast. I’m super
excited for the guests and plants we have lined up for this season.
I’m also excited to be asking each guest a new question.
This season’s question comes from a newsletter reader.
The question is: What was your most important mistake with herbs?
As a thank you for submitting this question they are receiving a signed copy of one of my books.
you’d like to submit a question to ask each guest of the season, you
can do that using the contact me form on my website, and if I choose your question you’ll get my
gratitude, a mention on the show, and a signed copy of one of my books.
To get us started with season 8 I’m sharing three of my most important mistakes with herbs.
My first important mistake is not one that I’m proud of, but it’s one
that I think we need to talk more about because it’s both common and
When I first started learning about herbs I wanted
to learn ALL the herbs and I wanted to learn them all yesterday. In
other words, I had a lot of excitement and enthusiasm.
result of this excitement and plowing ahead mentality I bought A LOT of
herbs. I bought herbs from online apothecaries that gave larger
discounts with the more you ordered. Plus, I figured by buying in bulk I
saved on shipping. So I bought more than I needed.
fresh herbs from a local herb farm so that I could tincture everything. I
had every intention of using all these herbs. In fact, for a short time
I had a free herbal clinic and I imagined giving away these herbs and
But, I didn’t use them all. Just recently I
went through all of my dried bulk herbs and I composted an astonishing
amount of old herbs. Herbs that I had had for ten years. Herbs I had
bought too much of. Herbs I didn’t have a particular plan for and,
therefore, literally they got put on the back shelf.
this didn’t happen with herbs that I grew and harvested myself. One
reason for this is that it simply takes a lot more time and energy to
harvest plants yourself. But also, my first teacher had instilled in me a
deep sense of responsibility towards the plants that I tend and to not
I am not proud that this reverence didn’t
extend to plants that I bought. Somehow that separation of buying rather
than tending led to herbal excess and ultimately waste.
wish I hadn’t made this mistake on behalf of the plants and the waste
that it resulted in. Now I am much more cautious about ordering just
enough of what I need. I’d rather pay a little more for buying less,
because I don’t get the big bulk discounts.
And I’d rather
pay for shipping more often and have potent fresh herbs that I use
quickly rather than lots of herbs that are dwindling in potency as they
sit on my shelves.
When I used to order herbs my mentality was, “How can I order more for a discount?” Now my mentality is, “How little can I order so that I go through them quickly?”
My hope is that by sharing this mistake with you, I can inspire you to also embrace a less-is-more mentality when it comes to stocking up on herbs.
My second biggest mistake was thinking that herbs are simply a
natural substitute for drugs. And, as a result, all I needed to do was
memorize what herb is good for whatever problem. So I would look up
herbs for the liver, or herbs for eczema, or herbs for PMS and then
memorize a list of herbs.
Of course I didn’t come up with
this technique myself. It’s a natural mentality that sprouts from living
in a culture of western medicine and, to be fair, there are still lots
of books that promote this type of approach.
But I know now that this is a big mistake.
reason why this approach survives is because it works sometimes. There
are many situations in which herbs reliably act in a certain way for
many people. For example, ginger is pretty darn good at relieving
nausea. And fennel seeds are fantastic for relieving cramping and
But neither fennel or ginger work like that 100%
of the time for 100% of the people. Moreover, once we get into more
complicated territory, like chronic illness, the success rate of herbs
falls dramatically with the this-for-that approach.
I started to learn herbs by memorizing what ailments they’re good for. I even started seeing clients using this method.
early on, I realized that I was not getting the results that I wanted. I
felt like I was blindfolded and playing pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey.
Sometimes it worked, sometimes it helped just a bit, sometimes there
were no results.
I didn’t love feeling like I was in a big guessing game.
I found herbal energetics, or the way that herbalism has been practiced
around the world for thousands of years. Instead of trying to memorize
this-for-that, matching diseases to herbs, I learned the art of matching
herbs to people. This method was not only way more effective, it was
also more engaging and fun to study and practice.
I know a
lot of you listeners and viewers are familiar with herbal energetics,
either because you’ve been listening to the podcast for awhile or
because you’ve bought my books or taken my courses.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with it, I want to give a short explanation, as well as a couple of resources for you.
energetics can sound ethereal or woo, but it’s not. At its most basic
it's the observation of how we feel and the observation of how plants
make us feel.
And how it works is that we match opposing energies.
is something that you already do in your life. At its most basic level,
herbal energetics is reaching for a watermelon when you feel hot on a
sweltering summer’s day. Or reaching for a warm spicy soup or tea when
you feel cold.
In addition to hot and cold we also observe dryness and dampness. We work with moistening herbs when we feel dry and then drying herbs when we feel damp.
It does get more
complicated than this, because both people and plants are complicated.
But that is herbal energetics at its core.
If you’re new to herbal energetics and you’re intrigued, I have two easy resources for you.
The first is my free herbal jumpstart course which introduces you to energetics through the plants themselves, and helps you begin to choose the right herbs for you. You can get this free course by signing up for my weekly newsletter below.
People repeatedly tell me that they get more from this
short video course than they do from courses they pay money for. There’s
lots of value in this free course and I’m excited to hear what you
If you prefer printed materials, then my first book, Alchemy of Herbs,
is all about herbal energetics. This bestselling herbal book has sold
over 100,000 copies and is highly rated and acclaimed. Obviously, I am
completely biased, but I think every herbalist should have a copy.
to sum up so far, my two most important mistakes were to accumulate too
many herbs, which resulted in herbal waste, and to try to use
this-for-that herbalism instead of applying herbal energetics.
Which brings me to my last important mistake, which was trying to be an herbal pharmacist, while ignoring the bigger picture of interdependence, reciprocity, and the gifts of the earth.
I was in herbal practice for 7 or 8 years, by which I mean I was an herbal practitioner who saw clients. Initially I loved it. It felt like my life’s calling. As someone who had turned to herbs to heal my own chronic illness, I was delighted and fulfilled to guide others on that same path.
But over time, something began to gnaw at me.
Even though I was artfully matching herbs to people, and I was no longer using this-for-that herbalism, it still kinda felt like this-for-that herbalism.
I began to see that I was basically a pharmacist. I was seeing a person, evaluating their health history, and then recommending a list of herbs, dietary and certainly lifestyle changes… but there was a deeper connection that was missing. I don’t think that good health lies within bottles and jars, even if we use herbal energetics to figure out what herbs to choose.
Ultimately, I don’t think we are going to transform our health or the health of the earth by swallowing capsules or tinctures that we buy at the store and then think that is that.
Instead, we have a sickness that runs deeper than that. A sickness that takes many forms, but ultimately leads back to a disconnection between ourselves and the living world around us.
Medicinal plants are both a practical and deeply healing way to find our way back to the earth; to live with gratitude and reciprocity rather than a primarily exploitative and extractive mentality; to see how we’re a part of this earth, not a separate entity from nature, and how our actions directly affect all beings here.
This perspective is also more deeply rewarding. Walking out to my local elder tree which produces fruit and flowers that keeps me from getting sick is now a profound experience of gratitude and joy; something I simply don’t get from picking something up off the shelf or having it delivered by UPS.
Yes, I still buy herbs. I still buy herbal capsules and tinctures. My lifestyle isn’t purist. But with each passing season, my life is more deeply intertwined with the living world around me.
For me the beauty and joy and even the biggest impact of herbalism isn’t swapping out herbs for drugs, even when using herbal energetics to guide us. Instead, it’s finding our way back to tending this beautiful earth. One step at a time.
Helping people strengthen their connection to the living world around them, through the lens of herbalism, is now my life’s calling.
Okay, those are my three most important herbal mistakes. I’ll be asking each guest this season what their most important herbal mistake was.
I’d also love to hear if you have one. Mistakes are how we grow and learn! And hearing other people’s mistakes can help our own growth and learning. Please share in the comments!
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Okay, you’ve lasted to the very end of the show which means you get a gold star and this herbal tidbit…
Since I shared about how I accumulated too many herbs in my apothecary I thought I’d share a few tips on how to best maintain your own herbal apothecary.
Rosalee is an herbalist and author of the bestselling book Alchemy of Herbs: Transform Everyday Ingredients Into Foods & Remedies That Healand co-author of the bestselling book Wild Remedies: How to Forage Healing Foods and Craft Your Own Herbal Medicine. She's a registered herbalist with the American Herbalist Guild and has taught thousands of students through her online courses. Read about how Rosalee went from having a terminal illness to being a bestselling author in her full story here.